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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
11 August 2020
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Joe Biden has named Kamala Harris as his vice-presidential pick.

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That sucks, i was hoping it would be someone like Tulsi Gabbard who could help get more Bernie bros to vote for him and push him in the right direction on things like Medicare for all but on the plus side, we finally know who Biden's VP is.

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Probably the most obvious choice for Biden - with him picking up momentum in some southern states with a higher black population (North Carolina and Georgia in particular), along with the BLM movement (especially in the mid-west where it began), it had to be a black running mate or he'd be shooting himself in the foot.* A pretty good choice imo, I think Biden has chosen balanced the need for someone with good policies and someone who appeals to the electorate. This could make the election very interesting... (Georgia going blue, perhaps?a-hard-days-night-george-4)

Would be interested to hear others' views on this, particularly any Americans

 

*now it should be said that it should never matter the skin colour or gender of the politican, however in this case I think Kamala Harris is probably the best choice regardless of that, so that's lucky...

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11 August 2020
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While that may appear to be true on the surface, i don't think having a black woman as a VP really makes that much of a difference. First of all, Trump's campaign strategy's so bad* that Biden could win with Jeb Bush as his VP. But most importantly, Trump's a very divisive president in the sense that ~90% of Americans either love him or hate him so there's not many people who are unsure about Biden and out of the few who are, a good chunk would likely either not vote or vote 3rd party.

*Trump's campaign strategy mainly consists of 3 really stupid talking points, with those 3 talking points being that Biden's far left (not true), Biden wants to defund the police (not true), and mail in voting will rig the election (despite Trump himself voting by mail).

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Kamala isn't popular at all, though, so it's not like this pick is going to help Biden get out the progressive vote. Then again, I didn't really have a serious preference; I always joked that I wanted it to be Condoleeza Rice or John Kasich as the ultimate conclusion of Biden Thought ('We need to unite against Trump so I've picked a Republican as my VP to show unity') but with everything that's gone on recently, perhaps the Kamala pick was sensible. I also think it would have been good for him to have someone who hails from one of the swingier states than California. 

Anyways, the main news for me is just being very happy than Ilhan Omar won her primary to represent Minnesota's fifth congressional district, despite her opponent having raised around $10 million more than her, and much to the chagrin of the entire establishment. Plus I just love watching Tim Pool here get humiliated each time a progressive wins their primary and upsets his whole narrative. 

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The first documented COVID re-infection has happened in Hong Kong.

While this is the first confirmed case of this happening, i wouldn't be surprised if thousands of others have already been infected multiple times, especially considering that some cases can be very mild or even completely asymptomatic.

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25 August 2020
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^^the first documented case, however there have been many anecdotes of this happening around the world before now.

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Now this would be quite the trouble for Hong Kong, as it is notorious for it's cramped living conditions and high rental rate. But what I fear more is the possible unrest between them and their government. Now I don't want to say 'China Good' or 'China Bad', but there is a very high chance that the central government is going to employ a lot of Chinese force (possibly the military) if the situation gets out of hand. And as many might know, relations between citizens and the central goverment have not been the best for the longest time. Hopefully both sides can just agree on a silent truce, for now. We don't need another civil breakdown possibly worse than last year's.

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2 shootings happened recently that are related to each other.

First, on August 23, Jacob Blake was repeatedly shot in the back by police while trying to grab a knife in his car. While he didn't die, he's currently paralyzed from the waist down and is handcuffed to his bed.

Then, during protests 2 days later, 17-year old Kyle Rittenhouse killed 2 protesters (and shot a 3rd) while participating in vigilante justice.

In the former case, i think the best thing to do is drop ALL charges, meaning that neither Jacob nor the police would be charged. Jacob did have a knife hidden in his floorboard, was resisting arrest, and initially tried more peaceful methods, so they definitely had probable cause to assume that he was a threat. However, the officer grabbed him right before shooting him, which shows that he could've just pinned him to the ground without using potentially lethal force.

In the latter case, Kyle was 100% in the wrong. However, i really hate how the left's ignoring the possibility of mental illness.

While it's hard to say whether or not he's mentally ill, no sane person goes from happy Boy Scout trying to help out his community to vicious predator hunting people down and killing them in a matter of ~2 hours. I can say from personal experience that these rapid mood swings tell us that at the very least, he has bipolar disorder.

Personally, i think they should do a mental health evaluation. If found sane, he should seek the insanity plea and be confined to a mental hospital for the rest of his life. If found sane, he should face homicide charges and should go to prison for as long as they can possibly hold him.

But of course, the real problem here is Trump, which is very depressing. The fact that Trump said things like "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" and did things like having peaceful protesters sprayed with tear gas, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened and the fact that he hasn't called out this man (as well as his supporters SIDING with this person) is absolutely sickening. If Trump had tried to unite us and de-escalate the situation instead of being a partisan bomb thrower, this never would've happened.

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Resisting arrest should not be grounds for a death sentence (and of course, you don't shoot someone seven times if your intention isn't to kill them). 

God , this is all so grim. 

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Agreed but this isn't just resisting arrest, as it appears that he was trying to pull a knife out of his car*, which he could've used to attack the officers. Of course, the officers should've continued to use more peaceful forms of subversion instead of shooting him in the back but this is a grey area scenario where both parties were in the wrong and i feel that it would be a great disservice to compare this to situations like the one with George Floyd where there was no threat whatsoever.

*While there is no proof that this was his intent, there was a knife found hidden under the front seat (the very area he was trying to get into).

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It's possible to shoot someone and render them no longer a threat without shooting them seven times in the back. The officer could have shot Blake in the leg, for example. 

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Definitely but he was a threat to the officers and these decisions have to be made fast and sometimes you don't think about the more reasonable response.

Had the officer hesitated, he could've grabbed that knife and hurt (or even killed) someone or he could've drove away and potentially committed even more crimes.

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Definitely but he was a threat to the officers and these decisions have to be made fast and sometimes you don't think about the more reasonable response.

Had the officer hesitated, he could've grabbed that knife and hurt (or even killed) someone or he could've drove away and potentially committed even more crimes.

  

The officer was a trained armed policeman, he is meant to be able to make reasonable response decisions fast. They are to neutralise the threat whilst ensuring life is not lost as often as possible as taking a life is a very last resort. 

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Blake was starting to lean forward into the car when he was grabbed by the officer who shot him, @Dark Overlord, and so all he had to do was push him forward across the driver's seat and pin him. Wouldn't have mattered if Blake had grabbed the knife, it would have been a very difficult position for him to do any serious damage with because he would have been face down. Blake had put himself in a perfect position for a controlled takedown but the officer decided to shoot him in the back seven times instead.

You have already acknowledged that yourself:

...the officer grabbed him right before shooting him, which shows that he could've just pinned him to the ground without using potentially lethal force.

As to not pressing charges, there's a chance that it'll be decided it's not in the public interest to prosecute Blake for resisting arrest, but he still has four felony warrants that can't be ignored; and as to the officer, are you seriously suggesting he should not be charged if it's found to be a wrongful use of deadly force? The wrongful use of deadly force by the police against African-Americans and others has been behind much of the unrest in America in recent months, and you think it should be ignored if it's found he should never have gone for his gun and used it?

Wouldn't that just prove that the police aren't called to account when they get it wrong?

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The officer was a trained armed policeman, he is meant to be able to make reasonable response decisions fast. They are to neutralise the threat whilst ensuring life is not lost as often as possible as taking a life is a very last resort.  

The problem with that is that officers are trained to fear instead of de-escalate, which leads to unnecessary excesses of force like this one.

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As to not pressing charges, there's a chance that it'll be decided it's not in the public interest to prosecute Blake for resisting arrest, but he still has four felony warrants that can't be ignored.

When i said that, i was thinking about the resisting arrest charge, i'd hate to see him not face charges for the serious crimes he committed that led to his arrest.

And as to the officer, are you seriously suggesting he should not be charged if it's found to be a wrongful use of deadly force?

Yes (although i'd be fine if he was fired) because Jacob was a threat to the officers. While we're both correct that he could've easily just pinned him to the ground, American officers are trained NOT to think about that sort of stuff. Also, i see this as a game of fairness since either both or neither of them would receive charges related to the incident.

The wrongful use of deadly force by the police against African-Americans and others has been behind much of the unrest in America in recent months, and you think it should be ignored if it's found he should never have gone for his gun and used it?

Why does police brutality always have to be associated with race? Sure, blacks are victim to police brutality more often than whites but it's not like cops never abuse their power towards whites. For example, there was recently a situation where a white man was playing video games too loudly so the cops came. Since the guy was holding a gun when he opened the door (he had no idea who was there), the cops immediately open fired without warning.

When we talk about police brutality as a race issue, we ignore victims like those and instead only focus on the black and Hispanic victims and i think that this cop would've shot Jacob regardless of race.

Wouldn't that just prove that the police aren't called to account when they get it wrong?

Not really. If anything, i think pressing charges on these officers would give the far right "proof" that "police are no longer allowed to defend themselves" and that "BLM wants to defund the police" (note that i'm using quotes to show that this is what the far right would say, not what i would say).

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